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出席声讨凶徒大会的不完整报告

希望大家都能以理智的态度来留言,用字尽量文雅些,Show that we’re well educated, can you? Thanks in advance for the co-operation.

本来今天(1-8-2006)就算没有这个大会,我也会打算出席由前拉曼生所举办的一个和平请愿活动。是不是拉曼生并不重要,重要的是我们必须趁着这个机会发表一下我们身为市民对治安甚至是对警方效率的不满。后来今天从报章得知也是在今天,拉曼学院的礼堂有一个公开的对话会让民众和学生一起来关心这个民生的问题。我大概六点钟到达拉曼学院吉隆坡总部的礼堂,发觉到出席者多为拉曼学院的在籍学生。除了学生之外,还有一些居协代表和一些该学院的讲师和附近住宅区的民众也来参与其盛。

注:我的这篇报告其实偏向主观,如果需要比较客观的报告,可以参阅报章。

为了区分我的感想和实际讨论的内容,我以蓝色font来代表我的一些意见。然后对话会中的回应我用橙色font代表。

大会的仪式从六时许开始,当大家都已经settled down了后,就开始为利建业学弟默哀一分钟。接着下来就是嘉宾的致辞,首先就是南洋商报的总编辑陈汉光先生的致辞,接着就是拉曼学院院长容女士致辞。接着就是长达5分钟左右的一个录像,录像是关于今天(1-8-2006)利建业学弟的出殡仪式和一些新闻背景的重温。接着大会主持作了一个简单的民调要求曾经是掠夺/爆窃的受害者举手,出乎我的意料之外,大部分的人都举了手

接下来就是很多人都很关注的交流时段,这个交流时段的主持人就是这次声讨凶徒大会的嘉宾,YB姚长禄政务次长,并且伙同容女士、国安部副部长YB拿督胡亚桥,WangsaMaju的警长吧(头衔不知道是OSPD还是OCPD,谁可以帮我查一下?)Sentul OCPD Asst Comm Mohd Rodzi Ismail(谢谢J@M@ST3R的提点),吉隆坡市长派来的JabatanKerjaAwam代表Mr. Lee,陈汉光先生一起上台参与这次的对话会。

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现在华人受害事件越来越多,看看报纸就知道,不是我胡说的。。。
这是因为那些匪徒觉得对华人下手它们会没事的,所以才越来越残忍。。。
有文明思想的,不会因为罪犯是你的亲朋契友而放过它。。。。
看看这些无良的匪徒会不会遭天谴,看看那些共谋的会不会有报应。。。。

author
fly
date
2009-04-20
time
22:01:29

利建业就这样白白牺牲了。那些警察根本就是不想做。。。。。
有人说,罪案不关种族,但是有抢匪亲口承认他们选择向华人下手,是因为华人有钱!最近短短几个月,就有几个华人女性被强奸?吉隆坡购物广场(警方知会否认),18岁少女避雨被轮奸,17岁学生在学院停车场被拐走强奸,还有很多很多。。。看看那些干案的,不是马来就是印度不然就是印尼孟加拉!

有人在中国报说,他去报警说被马来打枪,警察说你看错了,是印尼人。。。说得也对,同种的败类。。。

author
long
date
2009-04-20
time
21:50:23

我认为, 这政府追根究底是我们人民选出来的, 所以希望下一次的选举方面大家一定要好好选个为人民着想的领袖者和政府, 不然我相信这样的问题永远不会解决。。因为上梁不正下梁歪, 还是一样治标不治本。。

author
maggie
date
2006-08-16
time
13:54:53

Cassy
我希望你理智看待
毕竟这是两码子事
当然,你的质疑也是很多人觉得很吊诡的地方
可是我还是觉得你拿他们抓拿犯规者的例子出来并不是很妥当
你应该提出来的是他们旷工之类的证据(如果有的话)
毕竟抓拿犯规者是他们的分内事
还有不要忘了,换个角度想,比较基层的警员薪水并不很高,现实点来想,他为什么要为那几百块薪水去博命?
基层警员的基本薪水是不是有必要检讨一下,这样会远远比调高国会议员或者其他公务员的薪水来的实际

author
Jeffrey04
date
2006-08-14
time
23:05:55

i m a friend of the victim(lee kean yip)…i was pretty shocked to hear him passed away…but wat made me even angrier is tht inhumane clinics and doctors…i can understand if they said they do not dare to go to da scene but i couldnt have accept their excuses of do not have enough equipments…bullshit…and u expect a seriously injured youngster to WALk to ur clinic….i wonder whether the doctors have brains anot…what if i slash u twice on ur head and wrist respectively and ask u to walk to the nearest hospital on your own???the doctors are not qualified to become doctors..NOT EVEN HUMAN!!!

author
kenny
date
2006-08-13
time
09:55:00

jeffrey04:
对,这是他们的职责 。。但是 ,他们既然不够人手了,为什么还有这么多人手会躲在一角 ,开罚票给别人?

author
Cassy Lee
date
2006-08-11
time
23:30:41

Cassy,不要一次过发三四个comment
我的spam filter会block掉
之后的朋友
有什么东西一次集中在一起讲
不要一个时间内发三四帖
到时候留言不见我不负责的

author
Jeffrey04
date
2006-08-11
time
23:26:27

我们要的不是等待他们安抚我们的心 我们要的是他们会为我们的安全着想。。你们说 对吗?

author
Cassy Lee
date
2006-08-11
time
23:22:29

当你们被交警截住的那一刹那
在埋怨的同时,有没有抚心自问,你自己是不是有犯法?
我不是在偏帮警察,虽然我认为只是躲在一角检举驾驶人士是很大材小用
但是这也是他们的职责所在,不是吗?

author
Jeffrey04
date
2006-08-11
time
23:22:19

如果改善了拉曼的治安问题 , 那么其他的地区 , 其他没有街灯的地区 , 其他没有人关注的地区 , 在何年何时何日 ,才会被受到关注呢? 难道。。又要等待那一带出现牺牲者 , 他们才会在那边做防范措施??那么 下一个牺牲者会是谁?

author
Cassy Lee
date
2006-08-11
time
23:19:50

他们说,已经有计划在那一带安装街灯 安装这安装那?你认为是真的吗?你认为整个马来西亚只是那一带的治安比较差吗?整个马来西亚哪一代都很有可能发生抢夺案和强奸案等等。。那么他们有说过要改善整个马来西亚的治安 还我们一个安心吗?没有。。。 !!他们只是会躲在一角 , 看人们几时闯红灯 , 看人们几时驾车听电话 , 当逮到的时候 ,就会很威风地从一角跑出来 , 仿佛要告诉人家 “你上勾了”那么 ,他们可曾躲在一角 等待需要他们帮助的人?现在这位牺牲者 需要他们帮助的时候他们在哪里?

author
Cassy Lee
date
2006-08-11
time
23:12:42

现在无论他们说什么其实也无补于事了 为什么每一次都是要等到事情发生了才来找方法? 为什么不要在还未发生时做好防范? 现在安装了闭路电视 街灯 。。难道受伤的人就会好回?难道牺牲了的人就会复生吗?为什么每一件事 都要有人牺牲了 才开始后悔? 每一次 每一次 ,之前也是有很多案列了 大家有目共睹 。。对吗? 之前在Bangsar也不是有案件发生?那时候警方是不是也有要改善这个改善那个?如果他们有改善 那么今天会有人在一度因为治安问题牺牲吗?不够人手?所以就要牺牲无辜的民众?就要牺牲一个大好青年的生命?就要牺牲国家一个未来的栋梁?那么?还要牺牲多少个 他们才会认认真真地去看待这件事情?要牺牲多少个人 才能让我们觉得能够在马来西亚生活是我们的福气??借口。。借口。。每一次每一次 都为自己找借口。。不是不够人手 ,是他们根本没有真正认真地去看待这件事情。。

author
Cassy Lee
date
2006-08-11
time
22:53:09

doctor in malaysia, seen like u forget ur responsibility as a treater, u totally forget the spirit of a treater as hippocrete mention…in ancient age…

as my mun said: police dont do any job, only expert in catching ”samam”

feel so sorry to little Li who killed in incident, but my sadness is cover by these disresponsible treater and police…… nevertheless, the goverment and politician….pls stop defending with ur ”standard answer”…we are tired 4 this already!!!!!!!!!!!! stop bull shiting and prove by ur action!!!! actions itself are more than thousands word!!!!!!

sorry 4 poor english, it is my 5th languege….:(

author
russian doctor
date
2006-08-11
time
02:14:34

我只是把別人的原話説出來,並無惡意。我本身很多馬來朋友,也認爲會說馬來話是一件好事。。。

author
jackie
date
2006-08-9
time
23:53:21

给Jackie和其他朋友

事无关民族,请对事不对人
请不要把对某民族的偏差观点带进来,谢谢

author
Jeffrey04
date
2006-08-9
time
19:24:29

I am studying oversea now…but i was a tarcian for 2 years….

Non-Malaysian always comment about Malaysia government in front of me….none of them are good comments….

I agree to the statement that the situation in wangsa maju has changed from bad to worse….

A Singaporean asked me:”馬來西亞的治安醬差,那些警察是做什麽的?”

and a lot from others….

What can I tell them? What am I supposed to answer?

Feel said…. I am no longer proud to be a Malaysian…

author
jackie
date
2006-08-9
time
19:02:16

About 11 years ago the criminal cases already been happened, but it seems like getting worst nowadays…… my housemates, sister and myself are the victims of robbery, at Desa Setapak area. Hoping that this petition will helps to call up the united of chinese people, no more selfishness.

author
Alice
date
2006-08-9
time
03:41:32

hey…guys up there..don’t get angry…i believe the victim will rest in peace..argue at this forum wouldn’t change anything.when i read the newspaper that the two robbers kill a student.. i feel sad and angry too.. although i’m not a TAR student..but please, all of us, don’t let hatred cover our eyes..government don’t take action, we take action.. if we know we can’t depend on them(the police)why we still have hope on them..but i have to say, not all police are bad.. there still have some good police too..and for the doctor..when time comes, he will receive his pay back, but, don’t “curse” the doctor’s families..are you happy if you saw the doctor’s family die?
you will also get nothing but some “bao ying”..remember, whatever happens, don’t “curse” innocent people..it’s your口业 人在做天在看是真的有的让我们为死者念经希望他得到安息至於那个匪徒我看他是道友,吸白粉的人或者是印尼仔。其实,我们旧巴生路有很多老太婆被强钱, 因为多数的老人家晨运之后就会去巴杀。所以这些老人家也是提心吊胆。。我婆婆跟我说那天有个老人被抢劫,他用刀指着她的颈叫他拿钱出来,吓到那个老人要死。。可是他后来嫌麻烦没有去报案。。我看我们要组织一些自卫术的团体,不让那些讨厌的匪徒有机可乘,得寸进尺。。我看他们一定是知道我们无法反抗所以才敢乱来。。。

author
lynnetan
date
2006-08-8
time
03:05:15

我記得那是某部長說過的一句話,問題是目前很多事情,很多課題,我們只能夠等當官的為我們這些小百姓解決… 不過一直以來我們的問題好像從來沒有真正解決過… 通常都是掩蓋,轉移視線… 我常常問自己,可以在這個國家呆多久… 為啥人才流失的問題那麼嚴重?

author
狐嘯九天
date
2006-08-8
time
02:03:26

我們愛國不愛國? 不要問國家為我們做過啥?應該問我們為國家做過啥?

author
狐嘯九天
date
2006-08-8
time
01:36:33

已不对警方投以任何希望,奉劝各位出门自备武器防身吧!

author
chan.
date
2006-08-7
time
01:07:24

“住在这一带已经有 15 年了。。。非常喜欢这里。。多年来都平安 无事,为何这一两年来却发生这么

多的掠夺抢劫案?? 可以还我们一个安全的环境吗??

可以让天下的父母们安心的让他们的子女上学吗?谁可以帮我们????。。。。。”

author
ivan
date
2006-08-6
time
04:47:47

YB!你的职称是”人民代议士”,一个不能为人民做事只会说空话的YB是不会得到人民支持的!你摸摸你自己的良心,对得起你的选民吗???当事情发生是你不要只会放马后炮!那只会让人民与你的选民看到你那张不敢承担责任的嘴脸!

author
yiew
date
2006-08-6
time
02:15:31

大马警方贪污成性,人民对警方早已失去了信任,去报案就把你当人球,家遭小偷报警过了最少30分钟才到现场,巡逻时间就偷懒到嘛嘛档喝茶或多在树下,抓到违规驾驶的就要收贿。大马警方,你们真的以为你们的破案率很高吗?那是人民因为对警察失去信任大多选择不去报案!

author
yiew
date
2006-08-6
time
02:07:32

i jz feel very angry and upset.y tis kind of things can happen repeatedly?!!
hope the doctor will get the balasan very soon!!!!!u r not qualify as a doctor.go 2 HELL la you!!hope kean yip will cum 2 haunted everyday and nite!!!u deserved it!!!
and the police and the goverment.we r hopeless 2 all of u.so,think twice 4 ur vote 4 the next election.do we need this kind of goverment??!!
it’s time 4 our chinese 2 unite and cooperate.nobody will help us except ourselves!!

author
nike
date
2006-08-6
time
01:03:52

坦白的说,的确无可奉告.只因为我们的权益凋亡了!官方一味在将自己的头如驼鸟般埋起,然而我们身为大专声的年轻人,我们有为社区奉献出热血吗?恕我直言,没有. 是时候我们要奉献了!咱们官老爷不做事,难道我们期待他们现金身吗?等待现金身的那天,也许是无数的血肉腐臭的末日! 诸位拉曼的好汉,是时候起来为社区干事了!

author
ThisisPatrick
date
2006-08-5
time
22:59:08

其實,在那晚我是有個任務在身,我必現場做報導,也許講到這裡大家都知道我的職業吧!
 我本身住在文良港,該區的問題我有眼睛看,也做過一些相關的報導,但奈何,這些報導還是不能引起有關當局的注意,每次同事或是本身去採訪回來都后,心中的擔憂都多加一份,擔心下個是否輪到自己。
 對於有關當局(無論是那個單位)一直都以逃避、裝不知,就算明知也沒有採取行動的態度真的很不滿,但,可想而知,我做不了什麼。
 我們的警察呢?我們的代議士呢?都不知到哪裡去了,總之套他們的一句話,沒有案例,沒有投報,警方很難採取行動,結果呢?一個資優离開了。
 一直到聲討兇徒大會,我原本是期待有個很好的對話,各方能給予居民回應,但是,我失望了,整個過程我只有非常的生氣!生誰的氣?除了警方之外,另外一個大家可想而知吧!
 

author
wh_y
date
2006-08-5
time
16:16:06

Hi Ka Chua

Pls help to go reporting to Lee Jia Quan, it might help Khian Yeap & the rest of the people. These kind of doctors must be punished by their inhumanity act.

李家全:拒为利建业施救 若查实诊所将受惩
2006-8-3 23:42:37
(吉隆坡3日讯)卫生部政务次长拿督李家全表示,若有证据显示拉曼生利建业遭匪徒砍死案中,有诊所医生违反大马医药理事会所定下的职业操守或行为守则,拒绝在诊所范围外为病人施予急救,该部将对该医生采取行动。”

不过,他认为有关事件不能只听一面之词,该部必须先详细了解事发经过,其中包括有关诊所当时是否真的接获求救电话等,才能决定是否对有关诊所和医生采取行动。

他说:“我们一旦接获利建业父母或他人的投诉,以及有证据指有关诊所医生违反大马医药理事会所定下的职业操守或行为守则,拒绝在诊所范围外为病人施予急救,我们将对医生采取行动。”

author
Lynn
date
2006-08-4
time
23:06:37

我本身也有出席那天的

author
ka_chua
date
2006-08-4
time
01:07:52

I heard from one of the shop owner in Desa Setapak, the 2 clinics are KLINIK KITA & KLINIK MEDIVIRON.

I am strongly urge the person who was helping Kean Yeap to beg the 2 clinic’s doctors for help, please report to Ministry of Health (webmaster@moh.gov.my) Mr Lee Jia Quan. According to Sinchew Daily dd 4/8/06, he is urging to see the people who went to the both clinics for help, they are going to investigate this case seriusly, if confirmed then the doctor’s license might be eliminated.

Please, the WITNESS on that day, quickly go & report to Mr Lee Jia Quan (Ministry of Health Department) or the MCA office.

Please…………..

author
Lynn
date
2006-08-4
time
00:58:06

I think the doctor should be REVOKED their license since they really inhumanity. Dun u think that as a doctor, ur responsibility shall “save” live and NOT “perish” human’s live. Indeed, ur parents sent u to study medicine to rescue human’s live and NOT animal’s live. This job is done by vetenarian. If you really have inner witness (conscience), PLEASE close down ur clinic ASAP. (i noe one of the clinic, besides the RM2.50 food. For those who knew it) If u really lack of equipment, at least u go 2 the scene 2 have a look 1st. i dunwan to hear such LAME excuses. How do u even dare to ask d victim 2 come 2 ur clinic when he was unable 2 walk & lying helplessly 4 help. COMMON SENSE LA DR. Be considerate PLEASE!

author
kenny wong
date
2006-08-4
time
00:44:09

先提醒大家
揭发归揭发
记得要确实的资料来backup
你不会想要人家告你毁谤的

author
Jeffrey04
date
2006-08-4
time
00:40:23

HKC, Which Clinic Doctor Is Mentioned To Cross His Finger during that incident???
Can I Know. Close The Clinic Lar. Or Change To Dr Vet Better. Desa Setapak People, Tell Me Pls, Thanks.

author
klinik yang mana???
date
2006-08-4
time
00:37:36

与其拿我的blog来发泄,为什么不尝试给一些意见或者直接到国安部投诉?
在这里投诉并不会得到任何的好处,只会吸引到更多人来这里继续投诉
这样没完没了下去,我们又如何期待改变?

author
Jeffrey04
date
2006-08-3
time
23:50:41

“警察很英雄的!他们会捉坏人维持社会安宁的,他们很伟大。”小时读书就是读这种东西,长大了才知道这都是假的,看来我们的教科书需要改内容了。

wangsa maju的警察最厉害是什么??答案是—喝茶。每次去mamak,有几次是没见到警察的?曾经跟朋友讲:‘可能是他们的喝茶时间咯!’但奇怪的是,喝茶喝酱久的吗?那实事我相信大家都知道了吧!

现在人们对大马警察的效率已经完全没信心了,包括本人。贪污,偷懒。当然也有好的,但有几个呢?每次说要进行着进行哪,有几次是真的实践长久又有用的?三分钟热度,做事情一点规划都没有。也不知道人民在外头的危险,假如有一次让他们遇上了,他们还会这样草率了事吗?

cctv…有用吗?就算真的有罪案发生,他们的效率也是朝“快”的,来到时人都跑掉了咯。

不知道大家有否听过,在一个地方,两批人在打架,当时刚好有巡逻车经过,但,他们看到不但没下车,还开车跑掉了,警察??呸!

警察不能靠那我们能靠谁呢?靠自己?我们能做什么?贼在暗我们在明,唯有看—命运。。

author
meimei
date
2006-08-3
time
23:46:15

police force? a gropu of “professional” who stay in balai or mamak stall goyang kaki, bawa motor atau kereta ronda jalan-jalan cari “makan”? wearing a badget ” saya anti rasuah”, then tat badget only for decaration?

can v really depend on them? we place our safety & life on a group of “professional”. sound great! but wat kind of professional is that? hidding under flyover, taking photo of speeding? really “professional” loh! we need “professional” who can protect us, keep us safe from harm! i believe most of us have the same concept since primary school, even got ambition 2 be a policeman. but in reality, so disgusting! police = a group of “profesional” with “big tummy”, jalan-jalan “cari makan”. do we need this?

is it punishment on this kind of cases too light? or due to unefficiency of police force? they nvr afraid of it & dare 2 break the law? rape cases oso happened here n there. wat action our “professional” do? how many cases cracked? we do mind how much the rate of cracked cases! but we more concern of how many cases happened. how 2 reduce it! we dun hope we become the nx victim!

author
qkw10696
date
2006-08-3
time
22:03:09

today “nanyang siang pau” reported bout d meeting!
YB said tat attendant should listen 2 their or d gov explanation…but not come n ask question to lepas geram then go…
he also shown the data,numbers, evidence, proven to persuade d attendant to work together wit gov 2 solve crime problem…
i would like 2 ask by showing all tis data, numbers, statistics, picture can prevent, cut down, or solve d increasing of criminal…
we, as a malaysian really willing hope 2 work together n solve tis problem…but d gov n d attitude our police had disappointed us…
recently, i read an article in “china press” bout malaysian scare 2 get trouble when something happened had made d robber become more ganas…
i think is bcoz of d “birokrasi” problem, so it make ppl feel like very troublesome 2 make a report..there r so many prosedur 2 go through 4 a person who wanna make police report…something they will juz kick here n there…waste ur time…

society is sick…ppl feel unsafe has no more confident 2 d gov…haiz…
TQ…

author
adeline
date
2006-08-3
time
17:46:55

唉。。。世风日下。。。。

author
bowling
date
2006-08-3
time
17:33:37

问:被当人球,或者报案不被接受
答:从现在起,每间警局必须无条件接受任何报案。如果遇到警员不接受报案,请记下他的号码和名字向相关部门投诉。除此之外,他也透露了一些报案的程序。

他所指的“相关部门”是什麽部門?在哪裏?投訴的程序是怎樣?

author
b4dboyz
date
2006-08-3
time
17:02:54

Policeman : Ini u langgar lampu merah, saya kena kasi u saman
Saya : Wah Lau, ini pun mau kasi saman, tadi saya melalui lampu traffic masih oren
Policeman : Saya nampak kamu langgar lampu merah, tak payah cakap banyak
Saya : Kamu sembunyi bawah pokok, tiba tiba keluar, u pun bisa nampak
Policeman : Jangan cakap byk, lesen. Mau saya tolong?
Saya : Mau
Policeman : Macam mana tolong?
Saya : OMG OMG OMG

author
MD Ex Student
date
2006-08-3
time
16:17:47

或许大家和我一样的痛心、愤怒!
但是,大家是否发觉到华人较容易成为劫匪的目标呢?我可以告诉你们,那是因为我们太自私了…

还不明白?试想一下,为什么我们处处都不敢得罪姓‘马’的朋友呢?原因不就是:“如果得罪了他们,可能就会被周围‘马氏兄弟’前来围攻”
这显示了他们的团结已经成为了族群的保护层。而华人呢?

就以这则新闻来说吧!歹徒尽敢众目睽睽地打劫利建业,因为他们知道周围的华人肯定不会拔刀相助,反而还会离开那儿。
如果华人去掉这自私的恶习,可能利建业就不会离我们而去了 …

很明显的,除了我们自己外,似乎不会再有人来支持我们,即使有,也只是空口说白话而已,因为这是他们的强项。
好像从哪儿听说富贵山庄的负责人要聘请黑帮来找出凶手,我觉得会比警方来的有效;
坦白说,即使要我出钱给黑帮来看守‘黑区’我也觉得值得,虽然他们是走偏们,至少他们都是‘讲义气’的群队,而且也只为了钱,不会伤及人命!
我之所以有这样的想法,因为对警方已经没什么指望了,或许你们会觉得我想法好傻,但是还有更有效的方法吗?

此外,我也要借此机会向我拉曼的朋友说:“那儿真的不安全了,出外真的要小心;可以的话,至少3至5个人同行,别让歹徒有机可乘!”

author
Alan Tan
date
2006-08-3
time
15:01:01

i also want to see what the doctor look like!!!(Where?anyone tell me?)
*censored*

Jeffrey04插播:请不要人身攻击

author
TARCIAN DIA
date
2006-08-3
time
13:54:44

我建议所有那一区的居民罢看那两个无良的医生!!!!

author
jq
date
2006-08-3
time
13:16:50

Firstly, deepest condolences for the victims

TP points out that dunno which high IQ ppl’s does-not-make-sense opinion, CCTV, hei…kawai thought.

We as the students, are those who help to improve the country, to bring the country to higher leverl of success, thus we are the one that should be cherished, protected…but look at the society now, all the ppl see us as money sources, food, condo…..all are “opportunities”, but does those ppl, or can say any of our leaders concern bout us? I dun think so…

Last week i went to police station for some business, those police formed a group chatting at the counter there, “flood” the counter, even I myself also dunno where to make report…”Dun make the rules even the children dies”, if I not mistaken got this saying in malay, is that what they learned? God bless…why we pay for the tax!

Bolehland….haiz…leader TAK BOLEH, police TAK BOLEH, only these two, all the citizens can PUTUS HARAP liao…

And those leaders make “bubble cheque”, if you cannot make your promise work, DON’T SHOW YOUR FACE!!!disgusting!

author
scotthcw
date
2006-08-3
time
10:53:34

做为一位医生,本应是公德无量。
但这次事件中所牵涉的两名医生。。。(或许我们应该称呼他们为兽医,因为他们不医人),
就让我们见识到他们所谓的“医德”。
这两只兽医,你们不用担心,
这个世界是有报应的,
就算大众已不记得你们的无良,上天是不会忘记你们的,
等着被天收吧!!!

author
pschin
date
2006-08-3
time
10:31:30

Makahai ler… stop this stupid web site pls !!! oh man
we are headache of you !
u think YB will so free?

author
SAS student
date
2006-08-3
time
09:44:10

we want to live in a peaceful society…….we don’t want a violence society……….and for the doctor who didn’t go to help the victim,please kindly close your clinic becasue you are not qualify to become a human doctor………….this doctor is like shit…..

author
Ricky Ling
date
2006-08-3
time
04:06:38

事情发生后,我哥告诉我当时他朋友(我不认识)在场 ,
而当时到clinic去找医生帮忙的就是我哥朋友,
该医生的确拒绝到场帮忙 ,而且还说了要的话就把伤者带到clinic来他才会诊治之类的话。

看到报导说,建业躺在血泊中还安慰他父亲说现场有很多人,大家会帮忙他的 ,要父亲别那么担心 。
建业对路人是如此的信任, 没想到无情的却是标榜着医者父母心的医生!
报导中医生们都推卸责任 ,没有人说过不到现场 ,要伤者到clinic才医治的话 ,更以医疗设备不完善为由而不敢答应医治。
这个理由,也太牵强好笑了! 没有到过现场 ,又怎么知道需要用到什么医疗设备呢?止血应该会吧?受了伤 ,在等待救伤车的同时, 最重要的不是马上做适当的pertolongan kecemasan吗 ?这是我中学在PBSM学会的,难道不对吗?

除了痛心失望外 ,真的不知道还该说些什么 ..
无良医生你的医德在哪里?

author
cocalalah
date
2006-08-3
time
03:02:34

警察有什么用处我真的不知道,我只知道收duit kopi 警察最厉害。上次我朋友被打抢,去wangsa maju的警察局报案,结果叻反而被警察骂一顿。最后,我朋友被逼去Sentul报案,然后那些警察的态度也很差,一直摆脸色给我朋友看。结果叻,案到现在还没破,已经整整半年了…这样差的办事效率怎样让马来西亚的人信服叻…马来西亚人民的生命可以得到保障吗?

author
Nickky Teoh
date
2006-08-3
time
02:25:53

长期忙碌的学业令我远离了时事新闻好长的一阵子。。。。
此刻正沉溺在满21岁的凌晨时刻当中。。。正陶醉于朋友MSN的祝福当中。。。
突然收到这网页
震惊ing..

21岁生日愿望。。加多一条。。

MAY GOD BLESS OUR WORLD~

诚心地祈祷,愿该负责任的每一位都听到

–bluecastle

author
su chii_bluecastle
date
2006-08-3
time
01:29:59

这就是我们选出来的政府,我们投出来的国会议员。。。
人民代仪士??唉。。。

author
hon
date
2006-08-3
time
01:24:40

你赞同政府采取行动对付通过博客、电邮或手机短讯散播可影响社会安宁谣言的造谣者吗? (投票开始日期:2006/08/02)

我不赞成,因为如果看的人没有足够的理智而选择相信谣言,就代表了我们的教育政策已经有了某个程度的失败
我不想写这个topic不过我的确写过有一点关系的东西
http://jeff.coolsilon.com/2006/02/24/103/
http://jeff.coolsilon.com/2006/02/27/105/
http://jeff.coolsilon.com/2006/02/28/107/

author
Jeffrey04
date
2006-08-2
time
23:49:42

Wong and Jeff, you guys done a grea job *applause*. well people, take note of this.

“If information in blogs, websites and online portals were incorrect, bordered on slander, caused disturbance or compelled the public to lose faith in the nation’s economic policies, their authors would be detained for investigation, said Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.”

so becareful on words, DO NOT simply accuse people. uhmm im a lil freak out on commenting now,who knows there wil be somebody come and arrest me tomorrow or even the next TWO MINUTES !

below, uhmm nothing much, just a survey from nanyang regarding this issue:

“你赞同政府采取行动对付通过博客、电邮或手机短讯散播可影响社会安宁谣言的造谣者吗? (投票开始日期:2006/08/02)
赞同
0.0%
不赞同
100.0%
其他
0.0%”

frist on,
installing CCTV on road side ! A good suggestion, thanks to YB and whoever going to install the CCTV. this idea sounds great, at least gaves us sense of security, when we’re walking on the road, you know, not everyone has a car.

imagine the length of the jalan desa setapak,(oh wait, you guys mean desa setapak only? or the nearby jalan genting klang as well ? since there are criminal cases in genting klang). How many CCTv are you going to install ? and how much does it costs? bet it is not cheap. and are they really going to spend the amount for us? if they do, we can continue support them 🙂 but i guess , that’s tthe time where A FAKE CAMERA TAKES PLACE ! we malaysia really do have this kind of camera, or maybe they are “just not fuctioning” yet ? or do you think locate a police kiosk is more useful ?

well i dunno what is the best suggestion? isnt it more useful if we discuss an issue by reasoning than accusing?

” 受害者的疏忽也是其中的一个FACTOR” i think this comment pissed everyone off. tell me what can that 18 years old guy do while he’s walking back home. Bring a bigger parang to defend himself ? oh run faster than the killer with motor? or called a cab to send him home for the 500M ?well i only can say “ridiculous” its the same reason to apply on rapist case lar, remember ? last time they did mention that sexy dressing are the reason of being rape? what about those decent dressed girls were also raped ? they spoken out this sentence without considering the victim’s feeling.

im not sure my comment can be posted, btw, i guess another reason of student’s leaving half way might be security matter lar. the forum was held until 9 something right? we tarcian do not have big cars and body guard to send them back home,anyway we are pleased if they wan to provide this service. uhm.. or maybe those tarcian were also pissed off by the explaination? since YB repeated the explaination so may times already 🙂 dun be annoyed of early leave, YB. (in this case YB is the victim, does it makes sence if we conclude victim is the factor now?)

BE ALERT , not only tarcian, to everybody !

author
TP
date
2006-08-2
time
23:43:26

难道到头来,还是需要我们自己保护自己吗?

如果讲话有用的话,要警察来干什么?!!!

author
date
2006-08-2
time
23:37:43

I think not clinic KITA,cz Kian Yip killed in 25/27B,is in desa setapak…Tar villa is btw clinic kita and desa setapak,impossible is tht clinic.

author
lin
date
2006-08-2
time
23:07:36

Condemn the doctors. As for my checking, Klinic Kita is the suspected (which is nearest to the TAR Villa). Khian Yeap is on the way back to his accomodation at Tar Villa.

I have sent my concern with regards to this incident to Kementrian Kesihatan, Malaysia Medical Association, Malaysia Medical Council & etc. My purpose is to let them to aware that’s a case happended in Wangsa Maju and the inhumanity act of the doctor. I wrote to condemn the act.

I wish I can do soemthing for Khian Yeap & for all of us who is staying at Wangsa Maju.

Peace! Khian Yeap!

author
Lynn
date
2006-08-2
time
22:57:54

Oh ya, I forgot about the doctor..

Dear Doc,

Go *censored* yourself.. I pray that one day, you (or your family members) meet the same fate as the victim.. really, why the hell do you study to be a doctor? just for the fuckin’ money?

Anyway, anyone know which clinic was it??

author
Jonathan
date
2006-08-2
time
22:31:24

The robber are ANIMAL (INHUMANITY)…WE feel like want to CHOP OFF THEM and FRY THEM as “FRY GHOST”(in Kantonis) that means “yao zha guai”…HEY,robbers!!!BOTH of you still can sleep well after killing someone????How do u think if someone KILL your LOVES one or your family????You know how the victim’s family feel for the LOSS???

ANIMAL,for sure HELL’s door is opening to you…WAiting for u Oo…

author
janet m@Cy
date
2006-08-2
time
22:23:59

The robber are ANIMAL (INHUMANITY)…WE feel like want to CHOP OFF THEM and FRY THEM as “FRY GHOST”(in Kantonis) that means “yao zha guai”…HEY,robbers!!!BOTH of you still can sleep well after killing someone????How do u think if someone KILL your LOVES one or your family????You know how the victim’s family feel for the LOSS???
ANIMAL,for sure HELL’s door is opening to you…WAiting for u Oo…

author
janet & m@Cy
date
2006-08-2
time
22:19:08

I really hope that those authority should “DO” what they should do.What they have promise should not be a “BLANK PROMISE” semata-mata…WE AS MALAYSIAN WAIT THOSE AUTHORITY TAKE PROMT ACTION!!!!!!!!!!The doctor please be “BRAVE” so save victim.As we know ,they are person who save people’s live..Don’t because of lack of equipment,so be the EXCUSE and not to save the victim live,AT LEAST HE CAN DO SOMETHING,RIGHT???

POLICE>>>POLICE>>>>>>>>>>HOOOOOI>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WAKE UP OOOO!!!!!!!!!!!DON’T $LEEP ANYMORE!!!!!!!!PlEA$E DO YOUR DUTY YOU $UPPO$E TO DO!!!!!!!ONLY KNOW TAKE DUIT KOPI!!!!!!U$ELE$$>>>>>

Since everyone is concerning about this case,so everyone should take precaution to prevent it to occur..To all the residents,be careful in this DANGEROUS environment…Maybe,people that we know also will become robber in 1 day…Don’t simply TRUST people..

author
janet & m@Cy
date
2006-08-2
time
22:09:37

I don’t have d time 2 read all comments, but here’s my 2 cents:

These issues, invariably lead back to the controversial issue of “ketuanan Melayu”. Seriously, if you really can’t tahan our government, go somewhere else. Migrate to S’pore, Autralia etc. You wanna live here? Adapt.. That’s the best way.. no amount of whinning (in whatever media) will change the police force top-down. Have you noticed any politician or high ranking police officer making any comments about this issue? No.. when will that “change” come? Wait till some Datuk or Minister’s son gets killed.. then you’ll see changes..

author
Jonathan
date
2006-08-2
time
22:02:01

we r malaysian…..we r at 1……we must stand up together to defense it…..dun onli wait for the sky to drop something…….we must help ourself………always try to be a group or atleast 2 or 3 frens……..never go out alone………bring something that can protect urself………cannot scare of them………must braver than them!!!

author
drifter
date
2006-08-2
time
21:35:43

we r malaysian…..we r at 1……we must stand up together to defense it…..dun onli wait for the sky to drop something…….we must help ourself………always try to be a group or atleast 2 or 3 frens……..never go out alone………bring something that can protect urself………cannot scare of them………must braver than them!!!

author
Kevin
date
2006-08-2
time
21:34:59

ald nid not so say so much,wait for someone who can able to do somethings for us,for human,for peace~tats all~

author
onlygillian
date
2006-08-2
time
21:30:22

sorry for deleting your first comment, kevin.
请容许我用中文作答
我不能苟同你写的对印尼公民作出的这样的指控,而且还是毫无根据下的指控
除此之外,你的言论其实某程度上是很严重的人身攻击
虽然我也是推崇言论的自由,但是自由也要有一点限度
我希望这次是最后一次提醒了,接下来如果再出现这样的情绪性回文我立刻删除

author
Jeffrey04
date
2006-08-2
time
21:20:20

虽然我不是此校生,且以全国上下的人民一样纷纷讨论这件事。我虽是一位中午的学生,但却和学院生一样曾遇上窃匪,我的家人也如此。当我们去报案时,警方根本都不理会,当告诉他们事发经过时,便以一幅不是很乐意的样子
把报告打了出来。身为受害者的已经惊慌了,还怎样可以他们的服务态度呢?而且打出来的报告根本和我的口供不一。警方把这些事视为小事,等到有命案是才是大事吗?不只是那一半去听精明会的学生曾是受害者,本人四周围的朋友们也是!大家都是马来西亚公民为什么不能和睦共处呢?省委一生的不是应该有道德意识的吗?身为小学生的也懂得,何况是一位知书识礼的医生呢?匪徒们知道警方的好不关注,怎么不趁此机会“挖金”呢?射人先射马,擒贼先擒王。我建议在还没抓到匪徒时,大家为有的只是“防备”,防备足够吗?为什么要掩饰呢?演示了却没有行动。警方不是应该“加强巡逻”,让我们知道我们是被监护的安全情况下出门。人心惶惶的是不只是此案,我校附近的治安也是彼此彼此,有些女同学都是从虎口逃出的,早上上学时根本都不安全-此话是因为有同学“差一点点”就被“坏人“抓上车。社会人士的忽视,因为还没发生事就不算是大件事。对吗?

author
emily
date
2006-08-2
time
21:04:11

无论是否为拉曼生,治安问题一直是国民担心的问题。
为何,我国的治安问题会那么令人担忧呢?是人民团结力量不够还是有关当局采取的行动不够呢?
请各位当看到罪案发生的时候,能够的话请一起对抗匪徒别在纵容他们无法无天下去了。我想各位团结起来的话,匪徒也不会那么猖狂。有关当局也请加强安全措施.如果当局无法有效处理,我们只好靠自己了。

author
lingz
date
2006-08-2
time
21:02:42

如果大家想要观看录像播放,请游览 http://www.nanyang.com/index.php?ch=207&pg=923

author
Grace Ng
date
2006-08-2
time
20:59:57

希望大家可以保持冷静的态度,而且我绝对不容许人身攻击的comment在这里出现
请大家自重

author
Jeffrey04
date
2006-08-2
time
20:40:26

YB宣称这个计划已经从三个月前已经着手筹备?
(韩某确实知道Wangsa Maju的“警民有约”日期已是落实了的。因为中国报有登过此通告,只是没想到劫杀案会提早发生了。)

author
HANZ
date
2006-08-2
time
20:04:17

我 link 了你这篇报告,通知你一下···

http://happyfish.blogs.friendster.com/blurgirl/2006/08/post.html

author
chienyi
date
2006-08-2
time
19:47:26

I was there at the forum also.
Haihz. Instead of asking help from the government, we have to work together and team up as one. We are MALAYSIAN la!! Let us show those monsters that we are one!
As a tarcian who is living at Wangsa Maju Section 2 with my family, I now living here with fear. I fear that my family, friends and me will be unfortunate one day. I hope that this nightmare will be reduced as I know it is impossible to say stop it. I really wish that all of us can leave the house with smiles as we wanna go out and play. I don’t even dare to go to the PC Fair next week!! >

author
Kei
date
2006-08-2
time
19:42:38

对对对!我们的政府已让我们彻底地失望了!所谓"靠山,山倒;靠人,人跑;"我们自己出入多小心!夜里少出门!但这只是治标不治本!我们还是要给政府多点压力,逼他们多用点心去办事!快点捉到凶手,还死者一个公道!所以政府的kakitangan,拜托你们快点办事把!

author
ray.雷
date
2006-08-2
time
19:10:47

As for me,I cud not understand much wat is being posted here since im frm banana republic.But one feeling tat i got was everyone is very dissatisfied with the current situation surrounding us.Living in a surrounding that is so notorious is stressing everyone up.Im deeply sadden n shocked that a simple robbery case could steal someone’s life.Where is justice???Y shud everyone living in fear?
As a student living nearby,i dread for the time when i need to go out.I do not who will be the next victim?Since the authority cant protect us much,we need to protect ourself better.But how??Thieves are getting smarter nowadays,wat precaution we haf they are able to break.Wat can we do still??
In the open forum yday,i applauded for those who speak up.I ‘HOPE’ watever the authority promised us could be fulfilled.If not,i do not see the purpose of the discussion held.

To the victim’s family,i convey my deepest condolences for the loss.May hopes and beliefs will get you all through the hard time.

author
amanda
date
2006-08-2
time
19:01:44

政府時常說警察人手不足… 幹嘛我時常見到三两個警察叔叔騎着電單車到處遊蕩和呆在路邊樹下乘涼??? 最近就連學生逃學也要管… 就是不夠人手搞好治安…

author
mike
date
2006-08-2
time
18:48:53

Why every things must happened,government only will think to solve? Why cnt they solve before things happen? What the purpose to build a police station? waste money…every year we pay those cukai xxx to government,they never make good use of it,use to pay salary to them,but what they do?Do you all think for us?YB,If 1 day the victim is 1 of your family or relatives,what will you feel?You sure will take action as soon as possible.3 months ago already plan for it,who will believe you?Newspaper didnt advertise?no announcement?Booshit…malaysia government is useless,thats why we always look down by foreign country.Can you do something for us..PLEASE!!!!!
Even the victim not my friend,i very very sad for it.why such a good boy will become like this?Why the doctor cnt help him?At least go to that place see what can you help,maybe that guy will survive now.Doctor,your parents spend so much money to let you be a doctor is all wasteful.Doctor responsibility is to help patient,what you do,the god will know,you better wait,i sure 1 day same thing will happen on you or you family.That time you will regret what you do.Useless…Desa only got 5 clinics,which clinic near to LRT?near to 25/27B?the nearest clinic is open 18hours.Only have 1.Doctor, can you sleep at night?now is july,don forget oh…shit doctor…better get loss in this world…

author
Fishee
date
2006-08-2
time
18:41:12

受害者是无辜的。不要每一次说是受害者的疏忽。
DON’T BLAME ON VICTIM, IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF THEY ARE CARELESS.

Policeman should take the responsible on this case.

author
HELIM
date
2006-08-2
time
18:23:27

Thanks for putting up this report. I’m currently not in KL but reading through the report really helps to give an insight of what’s going on.

1) we should not keep moaning over what has happened, instead, let’s come up with a complete proposal for action.
2) the proposal should contain pratical execution plans for programs to tighten security, if the gov is not capable of coming up with brilliant ideas, let’s do it ourselves.
3) get the proposal published in main newspaper to pressurerise gov to take action and to answer to each plan, and give explanation IF they are not incorporating.
4) this plan must be thorough, not just covering for the Wangsa Maju area.
5) the plans should be something sustainable, not just “3 minute heat”.

Anyone can coordinate?

author
Greentea
date
2006-08-2
time
18:17:53

警方去了那里?我们政府在什么。会来的警察也只不过是饿虎入山。我们已失去了一个学弟,难道还要再失去一个吗?如果4架闭路电视能治暴安良的话,那么我们缴给政府的钱究竟是来干什么。我们不是要把问题丢回台上,但你是我们社区的负则人,也只有你才能给我们答案,我们这一带是犯案黑区已不是新鲜事,但为何要等到出了人命,所谓的YB,警长才出来讲话,是不是要等到新的命案,警方才会有线索。泣血蝇虫笑昌天,多少升平尽吹散,朗朗晴空,捂呼哀哉!

author
cheehan
date
2006-08-2
time
18:14:26

小弟的摩多余七月头在云顶阁第5座被偷了,奈何?(保安有巡逻,找车上锁 = $$$ ???)
7月3日在 Sentul 警局报了案,至今仍无下文。(没给咖啡钱,就永远找不到?)
前几日发生的骇人事件,毛骨悚然!!! (生命无价?)
不知医生的责任是做什么的? (也许有苦衷,小弟不晓得。)
警察呢? (。。。 “Saya tidak rasuah” 。。。“无言以对”)
议员呢? (请投本人一票?瞎眼啊?)
哎!
呜呼哀哉。。。

author
Simon Tan
date
2006-08-2
time
18:10:07

i agree with the one who voice out to boygot the clinic. i m not willingly to mention the name of that clinic since it is anonymous. the doctor was being very irresponsible to the victim. he refused to give a hand to the victim wit the reason lack of equipments. actualli he could have a steady check before making tat lame excuse as the decision, but he din. he is no longer having the right to continue his business here, he and his clinic shud be suspended.

futhermore, the cops are ignoring chinese very much. they nvr take action on any report made by chinese victim. for those who lost oneself property, u can stop thinkin of asking the cops to find u back ur belongings. end of the result they do ntg but announce u that ur thg are not found anymore. like me, i lost my car and few months later the searching of my car ended up of ntg gained.

same case for the murder case. they will oni tell the public how they’will’ do as the prevention. ya, they did take the action like cutting down all the trees to reveal the road. but it oni happens after we show our anger thru media. y dun they d their jobs earlier as they noe here is the place that criminal happen very often? pls la, it s all acting. if they have the’heart’ to stop the criminal and omit the discrimination on chinese, no more sad case will happen.

author
prima setapak c
date
2006-08-2
time
17:48:13

为了区区一点钱而夺取了一个打好青年的生命,这世界,这社会真的病了。然而病的更重的是我们的政治人物们,来来去去总是那几句,再几个月时间….人手不够….比起他国我国已经很好了,等等,等等….。马后炮是我国特有的文化吗?为什么他国犯错的政治人物有勇气辞职谢罪,而我们……..,唉。

加强巡逻,严打罪犯是警察的当务之急。尊贵的部长们,开始行动吧,别让太多无辜者丧失宝贵的性命了。。。。

author
KW
date
2006-08-2
time
17:45:37

本来打算出席的,后来因为时间关系没去了。
看完之后,我唯一想说的话是,做不到的东西不要随便说了算。
尤其是那句,赞扬警察的办事效率高,
事实真得如此吗?

我本身住在事发现场附近,那里一向来都是偏僻的地方,
就连白天都很少人,抢劫案更不是第一次发生,
就连我自己也试过大白天在那里被跟踪。

平常怎么不见有警察等等的巡逻?
平常怎么没看见有人来测量地方说要建电灯柱?
是不是每次都要等到事情发生了,他们才会警觉事情的重要性?

说起来都觉得好笑,我平常走路上课下课,都用那条路回家的,
那么久以来从来没看过警察巡逻那里。
但是最近呢?
事情发生之后,大白天一大群政府人员在那里,
不知道是测量地点还是重回现场寻找证物。
晚上,警车兜了又兜,
早上警察又骑着几辆摩托巡逻。

我想问,之前没有抢劫案吗?
就我自己听见在那里发生的经历,都不止一宗。
为何要等到有人因此去世之后才行动?
就算他们加强巡逻那又怎样?
不要忘记他们是在事发之后的两分钟内到达现场,
两分钟,被捅两刀的恐怕都会失血过多了。

author
有心人
date
2006-08-2
time
17:11:29

这个声讨会说来说去,只有一个总结:“执生”
手无寸铁的学生与居民的安全保障依然处于水深火热之中

author
LSC
date
2006-08-2
time
17:09:22

I just want to say nothing is enough!!! In private sector, if your project gone, don’t tell your boss “Because not enough head count!!” Do u thing they will buy you?? This is bullshit! I can give another 1000 or 100 thousands police men, but the quaility is very SAI!!! No wonder the people say government job is easy job, because their bosses can easily buy any excuses. One more thing! TAR college is MCA property, if they can’t help tarcian, who else!!!! Some more, Wang Maju is MCA territory too, rite???? Shameful…….

author
loke
date
2006-08-2
time
17:02:03

Useless discussion.. 没有结论的讨论。。
民主一点, “YB!再给你3个月时间, 如果没有初步明显的改善的话!! 请下台!!”

author
WARNING
date
2006-08-2
time
16:53:14

Hey Yap, oh, you were the one! Great point indeed! I was there yesterday, in fact, a lot of constructive points have been brought up! I hope we can awaken the local authority!! WAKE UP!

author
Siaw Way
date
2006-08-2
time
16:51:42

all guys out there, laugh out loud..
for voted for this kind of government,
for living in such pathetic place,
for listen to the nonsense promise by such politician, who always give us lots of hope everytime after tragedy happen, then scrap it and bring us more disappointment..thanks ya, for giving us these kind of @hope@,
for the doctor who asked the victim to walk to his clinic after tragedy happen,
for the patrol who stop kind men to send the victim to hospital, while he was seriously bleeding, reason by ambulance was on the way coming, which actually arrive after more than one and half hour later..
(maybe that i’m still ignorant, i know that sometimes people may reject to move an injured people as they don’t want to aggravate him, but what we should do while a people is really badly bleeding??)
my friend who saw this accident,while the victim still lying there, thought that was traffic accident,
went back after found that she helpless and a patrol there.
she told me that after she bath, finish some of the paragraph of our assignment, but the ambulance haven’t reach yet.
so ?? how bout
ask british come and dominate us?
migrate?
waiting for our government to do sth?
wahahaha…no solution..
cherish as we still alive today
as we don’t know when we’ll killed

author
lol
date
2006-08-2
time
16:41:37

I’m the yap that voice up my opinion that night. i mention that why they can spend more time to decorate the police station bu ti think they should spend more time to look for a specific way to solve this problem. beside, it’s seen like it’s getting more and more easier to buy weapon so i think the government should limited places that can buy such weapon. terrible and horrible … i think we should united and solve this problem on our own rather than wait for police or doctor to help or safe us. lastly, hopefully from today onwards there will be enough peaceful day for every tarcian or resident that stay around tar college. may lee rest in peace ….

author
Yap
date
2006-08-2
time
16:20:03

看来罪犯的犯罪意识增长率比警察的醒觉意识来得快和准!那身为小市民的我们又能够做些什么呢?只希望身任高职兼高薪的高官们和警员能够尽快给纳税人一个清清楚楚的交代,并改善拉曼一带的治安,让远在他州的父母能够放心让他们的孩子继续深造。

只意在安抚民心的你们,希望拿开按在心上的掌心,真正确确为人民办事!!

P/S: 住在那一代的学子们要小心自保。

author
yeeyee
date
2006-08-2
time
16:14:33

本人很遗憾不能出席该声讨大会。
对于一个曾经在拉曼学院就读4年,并在TBR住了3年的我来说,那里的治安真是糟透了!那时,附近一带也曾发生抢钱包、破门行窃等罪案。但几年后的今天罪案却有增无减,甚至越来越猖狂了。钱财抢了就算了嘛,干吗还要伤人、甚至要置人于死地呢?
看了有关声讨大会的不完整报告后,本人觉得举行类似的聚会能提高人们的醒觉,且从出席的人数来看,大家都很关注此课题。但可悲的是参与的领袖似乎只是为了出席而出席,并多次维护有关当局和推卸职责。难道身为代议士,再加上是内阁成员的两位YB能做的就只是出席聚会来安抚民心吗?策划了3个月的rakan cop计划还要等多久才能落实呢?落实后有能否有效执行呢?设立警亭、装置CCTV就能打击罪犯吗?我看到最后警亭是设立了,但最终警方会说人手不足,没发派遣警员站岗;CCTV是装置了,但被破坏,导致不能操作。那岂不如同虚设!
看来与其求人,不如求己。本人觉得居住与附近一带的居民应自保,这才是最重要、最实际的措施!

author
豪豪
date
2006-08-2
time
15:25:49

WangsaMaju的警长吧(头衔不知道是OSPD还是OCPD,谁可以帮我查一下?)

Answer : Sentul OCPD Asst Comm Mohd Rodzi Ismail

author
J@M@ST3R
date
2006-08-2
time
15:20:25

千篇一律的答案。。。什么我们已在做了。。。目前正在进行。。。人手不够。。。难道你们不觉得这样的答案听得太多了吗?? 各位大大们,有时靠说的是没用的。我们想看到的是实际的行动。难道有关当局要等到下一位牺牲者的出现才会觉醒???

author
miaomiaocat
date
2006-08-2
time
15:17:11

Police Malaysia TAK BOLEH HARAP!!!! How come can take so long to arrive to the scene? Aren’t Police need to TRAVEL from other planet to the scene? TAK BOLEH HARAP!!!

author
Useless Police
date
2006-08-2
time
14:55:20

~>YB宣称这个计划已经从三个月前已经着手筹备
哦??是嗎??三天還是三個月前??
~>YB也赞扬警察的效率卓越,在案发的两分钟内就到达现场。
哇..很偉大啊!!劫匪有抓到嗎?
~>Case Solving Rate其实是偏高的,他强调,总的来说我国的破案率大概是50%左右,强奸案更是高达约90%,谋杀案约80%,掠夺案约50%
為什麼會偏高呢??是不是證明那裏的警察辦事無能?如果警察的辦事效率能提高,我相信破案率會大大的提高.
~>警方需要提高效率和态度
警察應該無時無刻都保持最高,最好的辦事態度,不是死了人才來提高!!

對於YB和警長的言論…
我只能说…爛!!

author
Neo
date
2006-08-2
time
14:24:54

我从六点开始坐到九点,从头听到尾。我默默无语,只有聆听大家的心声,大家的愤怒,还有大人物的解释,还要听胡阿桥给了大家怎样的终结。。我只用一些身体语言,来表达我的心情。听了口头上的解释,一再的摇头。如果只是纸上谈兵,讲那么大声有用吗?
责任?我们不看只是“说说而已”的人。有时候,看某件事情,不要太处以反观,把它乐观化,或许比较有改善。
我不多说什么,因为我本身也做不了什么。没权、没势、没金钱。大家都一样。我们除了等,还可以做什么?大家都很愤怒,我也很愤怒!可是愤怒又有什么帮组?就算举办了这个声讨会,并不代表把一切宣泄了出来,就有所改进。那些提议不是完全没有用处,而要看当事人如何善用。

author
date
2006-08-2
time
14:16:53

I hope the parties concerned were not just trying to give us empty promise, WE DON’T NEED THAT! Prompt action is what we needed.

It’s also the time for us Chinese to awake, frankly speaking and IMHO, we’re not united enough. We should help our folks. There is a Chinese saying “sha yi jing bai”, if we really dare to gang up to combat the criminals, at least we could warn them that we Chinese are NOT THAT impotent! The SPIRIT of UNITY!

But, all these are not enough. If parties concerned have done their part, and we really gang up to combat the criminals, what’s next? Is that the end of the story? The criminals may now move to other residential areas to commit their crimes. CCTV, patrol, Rakan Cop and all that, are good but just for short term! Please look into the root of the problem. We need a leader that not the one who is “the frog under the well.” Why some countries are doing so well with minimal crime rate? How many of our leaders / ministers know what is Sociology, or Criminology, etc.? We Malaysian (not all) have the problem of self-complacence, and never think of making any advance. Why they always “kiasu” (or maybe lazy) and never “bu chi xia wen”?

I doubt whether any of our leaders have ever thought of “WHY THINGS HAPPEN”? To me, they seem like just know “WHAT TO DO WHEN THINGS HAPPEN” (or even worse, “HOW TO COVER”). Why not we look at the root of the problem? Unfortunately, we don’t have the freedom of speech, how many newspapers are reporting the truth? Or shall I say at least they’re biased. We couldn’t criticize our leaders publicly. NO CRITICISM = NO IMPROVEMENT. We don’t want someone who knows only how to flatter their peers or superiors, we want someone who can take criticism; make wise decision; take prompt action and most importantly make long term plans!

Our society is so very SICK! And I’m so very SAD. I hope we together can make it better!

author
Siaw Way
date
2006-08-2
time
14:15:25

-tai chi master talking cok.

-conclusion without conclusion…

*因为大家的焦点都放在警员身上,YB强调,警察绝对不是罪案的发生原因,而是社会的问题。 *

-this sentence piss me off.

author
skl
date
2006-08-2
time
13:56:10

Times for us to do something for ourself we cant solely depends on police, call the police or if situation preserve help the victim fight the bandits.

Set up our own patrolling team in neabourhood or engage security guard. If we dont help ourselve who else will ? Stand up Malaysians fight them.

My condolences to the family of our victim I am deeply sad and sorry for what have had happen where it shall not occur at all.

author
JLC
date
2006-08-2
time
13:56:04

WHO KNOW WHICH CLINIC/DOCTOR REFUSE TO HELP THE VICTIM? LET SOUND IT UP AND BOYCOT IT.(DOCTOR IS FOR HUMAN ONLY, DOCTOR THAT DIDNT HELP PEOPLE IS NOT HUMAN, SO WE USE ‘IT’ HERE.)

DESA SETAPAK GOT SO MANY CLINIC(>5 CLINICS), SO LET SHOW THE POWER OF TARCIAN TO THEM, IF THEM DIDNT HELP TARCIAN VITCIM, WE ALSO DONT VISIT THEM AND BOYCOT THEM,LET THEM CLOSE ITS DOOR AND BACK HOME CURE ITS OWN MOTHER ONLY.

author
WONG CHEE KEONG
date
2006-08-2
time
13:40:36

其实我也不好意思要去说些什么
只是顺便通知大家一下
比较专业、准确的报导可以参考今天的(2-8-2006)南洋商报

author
Jeffrey04
date
2006-08-2
time
13:08:19

so sad. while we are tired all the day to work and study. during go back time, we still hv to alert ourselve all the time. so, wat else the police can do for us?

author
eric khor
date
2006-08-2
time
12:54:45

警察是高收入的上班族。
有一次我的摩托车停在拉曼外,但一下就被偷了。
只好报警(sentul polis station)。
没有几天,警察来电说,我的摩托车在路障起获,但是。。。带RM200来酬谢我们。
听了sien掉!!只有给咯!!
去拿摩托车时,怎样也start不着。。。用推的。。。
当经过大门是,当值的警察(看门的)说如果被偷摩托车从警察局推出去没在他的record book里面,分分钟会被警察拉!!。。又要了RM30….
sien掉!!只有给咯!!
推到摩托店,才发觉starter 不在了!!
原来被警察偷了。。。RM200又不见了!!
sien掉!!

author
bookshopper
date
2006-08-2
time
12:48:25

We felt sad and disappointed for whatever happened around us..
IF we(Chinese) don’t have good awareness and cooperative spirit, we will be always, become the victims… This happen cause only Chinese is their Target, very rarely you will see those Indian or Malay kena.. Why chinese???!! we do have our family and we deserve to live in more justify environment? Why shouldn’t the government do something to protect us?!!

Guess next time when we come across the robbery, thief, rapist, we will make sure that fellow got broken legs and tell them the direction to nearest clinic.. What a ridiculous society we are in??

author
Angulimara1
date
2006-08-2
time
12:39:01

本人已对大马的警方效率失去信心。
我宁愿未雨绸缪,也不要亡羊补牢。

author
BananaZai
date
2006-08-2
time
12:22:53

Before we blame our government and our police, pls blame ourself first…coz this is the government we vote for. If u not satisfy with it, pls REMEMBER WHAT HAPPEN NOW and VOTE WISELY next time(THIS POWER IS LARGER THAN TALKING MILLION WORD HERE. AGREE?) I WILL BE THE FIRST 1..

author
WONG CHEE KEONG
date
2006-08-2
time
12:05:20

警察的办事效率真的是很差,我的家离警察局才短短的两、三分钟而已,但当发生事情的时候,警方竟用了半小时才来到,幸好小偷被我的邻居捉到了,否则不堪设想。。。

author
sally
date
2006-08-2
time
11:25:53

i am so Scare…..

author
Agnes
date
2006-08-2
time
11:19:16

唉,我邻家有小偷,从屋顶跑了,打电话报警,警察就问有没有武器,他们说不知道,然后警察一个钟头后才来,小偷早就跑掉了.
想问的是,是不是有武器就慢慢来?

我听到988的报道,你们真的很棒!

author
Nee
date
2006-08-2
time
11:02:28

警察每次都在事情发生之后在才现场出现的…
好像我不曾听说过是警察先发现犯罪事件的…
再来就是为何警察不聆听我们的问题呢?
就算是被我们骂到血狗淋头也不用找个YB出来讲话。。
这样我们会觉得警察更无能…

P/S:不知道要说什么好,只知道现在超想飞过去KL支持你们…

author
jimmychin
date
2006-08-2
time
10:50:21

屁!!!。。。
讲厉害。。。
掩饰厉害。。。做KANASAI!!!!
酱多计划不早早进行。。现在才来讲。。。
警察不够他们有象政府申请别的区调来对吗。。。
都会讲是黑区。。他们的意思好象黑区人民就表去咯。。。
SOMOK屁!!!黑区应该派更多警察巡逻。。。
酱叫我们表去。。。叫他们不用做更好。。。。
本人以为昨晚会有类似响应政府明白民心。。。
呸。。原来类似掩饰会。。。找借口来逃离那个责任吧了!!!!
越向越火!!!!

author
Moy
date
2006-08-2
time
09:55:17

thanks for sharing, its really a great lesson for us again. Infact, it is just another dissapointment again. Another victim died again, police, doctors, .. didnt feel really sorrow .. they are just thinking how to avoid themselve from problem. Us, that keep on thinking wat can do for the victim ,wat can be improved , is because we are the same with the victim… we can feel the worry and pain.

author
ShuVan
date
2006-08-2
time
09:46:08

纠正一下:
你的主题:“声讨凶徒大会不完整出席报告”

其实改成“出席声讨凶徒大会的不完整报告”会比较好一些

虽然都看得懂,但是从语义学来说,你这种组句方式,人们会把“不完整”和“出席”联系起来变成“不完整出席”……就是出席到一半就离席的意思

author
紫雨
date
2006-08-2
time
09:30:09

哈!亏那个YB说得出口!转移视线罢了,要骗几岁的小孩就可以拉。我想请问,对不起都要问一声的啦,“YB,假如你所说的三月已经有计划要成立什么RakanCop的计划,为什么到现在还不了了之?再如果,当时很不幸的,你的某某亲戚被XXX,那么这个计划是不是会拖延到现在?”门都没有!!!别在那里烘沙爹啦。。。

author
ahbeng78
date
2006-08-2
time
09:16:18

呵呵呵,荒谬,简直荒谬。
治安不好不是一天两天的事,发生惨案各方都有错,其中最无辜的还是受害人。
歹徒凶狠,夺人财物,伤人性命,已经不是被害人疏不疏忽的问题了,
而是匪徒太过丧尽天良。而且连续两宗案件有很大可能是同一伙人干的,
毕竟谁会那么巧,在同一天,同一时间,拿着巴冷刀满街走,可见歹徒已经丧失理智了。
破案率很高吗?不觉得哦,强奸杀人,罪名严重,媒体压力,舆论压力,警方能不破案吗?
说句难听的,破案率高不是警方厉害,而是报案的人少,有谁喜欢当人球的啊?
CCTV如果一两个还可能有效,人多了谁来看。
我住的17区有光亮的路灯,有个足以鸟瞰百尺内的CCTV,不过可惜啊,
17区还是在5大犯罪率黑区的榜上常客。
人家巡逻警察要带手枪,这里却带冲锋枪,夸张吗?
一大堆想写的,现在心情还是忿忿的,再写就要开骂了。
平复下心情先,不想喧宾夺主,毕竟不是我的BLOG。呵呵。

author
Exdeath
date
2006-08-2
time
02:44:37